Posted by Ron Kenyon on April 10, 2006 at 12:20:19:
In Reply to: Re: The Hoff Eden Valley posted by Karl Lunt on April 06, 2006 at 15:08:22:
I was the one who graded Gromerzog originally - and although I have done my bit of guidebook work over the years - my grades are not always spot on - eg The Griddle at Crag Willas
Gromerzog I think has got more polished over the years - not doubt good discussion points before the next guide
How does one grade the routes at Windmore !! Are they routes or boulder problems ?