Nick Wharton, guidebook writer for the upcoming Lake District rock guide was on BBC Radio Cumbria talking to Helen Millican about climbing, interspersed with music that he selected.

You can listen to it here https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p09tnrjx The relevant timings on the programme timing bar are: 15:20 to 54:45 then 2:15:55 to 2:54:25

Nick says “listen out for the obvious historical mistake – thrown in to check people are listening.”